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Ask the Reader: SolidWorks on Vista 64 bit. Best System Setup? What’s Important?

by Josh on October 8, 2008 · View Comments

cool vista wallpaper backgroundWhat’s the last thing you’re thinking of when you wander into a den of wild asps? …What system is best for running SolidWorks on 64 bit Vista. That does absolutely nothing for your survivability quotient.

It’s a common misconception that SolidWorks doesn’t run very well on 64 bit Vista. If you look into installing Microsoft Vista the experience can be quite the opposite. Now, people are using laptops and desktops loaded with Vista that kick the pants off XP systems.

However, it may help to know exactly what systems works best. So I turn it over to you, the reader.

Have you upgraded? What system do you use? What did you look for when upgrading your hardware? What programs didn’t work? What did you pay? Tell us what your experience in the comments and I’ll repost the findings.


Vista wallpaper image from Brajeshwar

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Erick October 8, 2008 at 12:50 pm

I wish! I hope to hear some good feedback, especially the usage of >4GB of memory and multiple cores. I need reasons to push for newer computers (ours >2 yrs), 64Bit and Vista, maybe. Resond people! Thanks.

jeff b October 8, 2008 at 1:55 pm

I don't know how many companies are going to invest in upgrading to vista when it seems microsoft is going to keep stretching out XP's life (http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2...)
and they are talking about their next OS already.

sadly tho i have no experience to reveal the mysteries of 64 vista craziness

CharlesCulp October 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm

It was reported at the SW Tech Summit in St Louis that WinXP will be unsupported next Oct, and thus SW2010 will be the last to work on WinXP.

ian October 8, 2008 at 6:27 pm

As mentioned above, Microsoft is stretching XP's life cycle.

I don't plan on upgrading my OS until windows 7.

Dennis Hvam October 9, 2008 at 12:36 am

Windows Vista 64-bit
Hi all,

My system consists of the following:
E6850 @ 3.00 GHz
6.00 GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600

I installed SolidWorks 2008 SP4.0 64bit, 3 months ago. In the start everything was chaos and our reseller couldn’t tell us why, and SolidWorks crashed very often. It turned out it was our PDMWorks’s addin which caused the trouble. Of cause I searched the net for people with similar problems since our reseller was a n00b regarding the issue. As it turned out I had to add a new path in windows environment variables “C:Program FilesPDMWorks Enterprise” Ever since I’ve had no trouble at all. Every little nice visual feature is turned on, I can load huge assemblies (for me 1600 parts) with realview materials and the mirror effect. It runs smoothly! A guy from the SolidWorks support center told me “Vista is a nice looking way to make SolidWorks unstable” sure when you don’t know that you have to add a new variable to the system. Other than that he couldn’t be further from the truth! SolidWorks is now running more smoothly then every.
So don’t be afraid to upgrade to Windows Vista 64-bit. It’s the best thing ever happened, in this office!

/Dennis Hvam – Denmark

Niwla October 9, 2008 at 3:12 am

I have tried to install SW2008 SP4 and SW2009 SP0 (both x64 versions) on my Lenovo 3000 N200 notebook(core2duo 2 gh, 4 gig mem) running on Vista Ultimate X64. Both versions didn't get any further than the startup-screen. My reseller doesnt have any experiens with Vista X64 so they cant help me… :-( …since this installation is for a “home-activation” it doesnt get priority. I will perhaps give it a try later

Anyway, I hope to hear some positive feedback as well!!!!

Adrian Dunevein October 9, 2008 at 6:46 am

I use SW 2008 for Vista on my laptop. I was concerned initially after reading horror stories but my experience has been uneventful. The software works just fine. My XP office network installation of the software has been more problematic, but I think that relates more to the overloaded network in our office than Solidworks software itself.

I think network installations are in general more troublesome and its very hard to pin down problems when they occur.

Matt Lombard October 9, 2008 at 9:16 am

I'm running Vista 64 (business) with 4 GB RAM on my SW desktop. E8500, fx1700. I haven't had any problems exclusive to that machine, other than some missing SW interface pieces due to to Vista. I've got to say that its a lot faster than my xp box, but it;s also 2.5 years newer than my XP box. Rebuilds take half the time. The main thing with Vista is the eye candy. I haven't turned it all off. Those expanding dialogs get a bit dizzying after a while.

It's kind of a pain maintaining 32 and 64 bit systems simultaneously for 1 user. Especially when the SW downloads are all named the same regardless of release, service pack, 32/64, etc.

The only thing I've done to mess with the Vista OS to make it more livable is to turn off the User Interference Module. No problems aside from drivers that are unavailable for Vista 64 for some of my hardware.

SW installation worked well, but I admit, I shortcut the SWIM, and just do manual downloads. Also have to admit that I'm a bit anal about keeping this box clean. I don't access the internet through it or do emails or even ftp. Haven't even used MS Office on it, although its installed. It's a stripped down one-purpose box with dual processor. I think for straight SW use, duals are the best choice right now. Quads sacrifice clock speed, and don't replace that with multithreaded bonus (except for rendering or FEA, which I don't do much of).

If you're getting a new system and you want to use Vista with SW, I think the only way to go is 64 bit. Vista requires and ADDITIONAL gig of ram on top of whatever you would normally use, and if you;re already 3 gig switching it in XP, you're going to go over that 32 bit 4 gig limit easily with Vista.

Josh M October 10, 2008 at 9:18 am

Thanks Matt, I agree totally that 64bit is the only way to go. 32bit just is not worth it, since the main reason to move to the new platform in the first place is to use extra RAM. Thanks for listing your box specs!

Josh M October 10, 2008 at 9:20 am

yep, another reason that companies are not moving to Vista is because of the work IT will have to do to get everyone updated, which to me is partly an excuse, because I've talked to IT people that have not had problems with it. Of course they are also use to keeping their company up to date, so they know how to do it.

Josh M October 10, 2008 at 9:24 am

Try disabling the user Access Control (UAC) – go to User Accounts in the Control Panel and select “Change security settings” and then unselect “Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer” – this has been one major problem with installing programs, drivers, scripts and getting things to work. UAC is awful. turn it off.

Josh M October 10, 2008 at 9:28 am

Thanks Dennis, for the report and listing your specs. seems like it's always one little fly that can ruin the whole batch huh.

Josh M October 10, 2008 at 9:32 am

thanks Charles, that is interesting. seems solidworks is moving ahead (which I think is good in some regards) even though a lot of users will undoubtedly still be using XP. I'm sure their are big plans with Microsoft 7. Maybe a post should be written on preparing for Microsoft7/Solidworks2010/11/12 :)

Jay October 11, 2008 at 10:44 am

This may be the most perfect system to run 64-bit Solidworks! About 2 months ago, I customized a new HP d5000t. PROCESSOR: Intel (R) Core(TM) 2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.67 GHz; MEMORY: 8.00 GB RAM; SYSTEM TYPE: 64-BIT OS; NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARD: GeForce 9800 GT w/1 MB RAM. Oh, and yes, I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate!

Let me tell you…I have had ZERO PROBLEMS with this setup. I'm running SolidWorks Office Premium 2008 and PDMWorks Workgroup VaultAdmin and everything is operating at optimal performance. I've tested every aspect of both programs with no complaints. Hey, even the RENDERING on the GeForce card does an excellent job! Matter of fact, I actually think it out performs my more expensive NVIDIA QUADRO FX 3700 at the office!

I have used DELL for many years and began to get frustrated with it's performance and decided to make a switch to HP. I'm totally glad I did.

So if you're looking for a kick-ass system, you might want to look into this particular setup. The cost was about $2,300. But for that price, your worries and perfomance problems will be over!

Hope this helps. And If anyone has questions, they can reach me at jptuttle@swbell.net.

jon miller November 9, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Guys,
for all who are searchering the interweb for some insight on how the heck to get swx2009 vista 64 on your puters, here is what i had to do. From a fresh install of Vista 64 Business i used my 2008 xp 64 dvd to start the install, let it take me to swx to get 2008 64 sp5 and install, then reinstalled 2009 vista 64 sp0. i am not saying this is the only way to get it it there or that anyone else was having any issues. it is just what worked for me and i still have }{ this much hair left on my head! and it only took 20 hours to get it done!!!!!! good luck

Josh M November 12, 2008 at 8:45 am

Thanks Jon, this sounds like just the right approach if you haven't gotten a CD yet. In fact, it sounds like the approach I'd use anyway. Installing 2008 would allow me to use my Options setting saved in 2008. THey would get ported over automatically during the upgrade. Great comment, thanks!!

shelley December 8, 2008 at 8:58 pm

i got a new acer desktop,running vista32 bit.the process of install of solidwork 2009 32 bit is ok, but when i start the solidwork, it pop-up an alert that:” a problem caused the program to stop working correctly. window will close the program and notify you if a solution is available”, and solidworks auto shut down.someone has any idea? help!!!sos!!!

APOC543 January 2, 2009 at 2:43 am

Hey guys, I have a Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q802, has 500GB HardDrive an 4 GB RAM. I tried downloading a free 6 month trial of SolidWorks 2008 onto it. My Toshiba is running a 64 bit Windows Vista. After about 5 hours of downloading the program, all of a sudden it says that Vista does not support it.

What am I doing wrong? Is it that i need to buy it to get it configured? Or could it be my computer or what?

alejandro March 29, 2009 at 8:02 pm

i have windows vista 64 bits and i have insalled solidworks 2009 64 bits and i cant crak it so it doesent run please if you now what to do let me now

Josh M March 30, 2009 at 9:38 pm

Nope sorry there. No crack help (or crak help) here. I'm down with free software and learning it, but try checking out some ways to use it legally.

PPBG April 3, 2009 at 8:53 am

I was hired by a hardcore engineer to install and debug SW 2009 on his brand new computer running Vista x64 (details below). Installation was no problem. But he needs MS Excel to work and it often crashes leaving him with blank windows where the Excel data is supposed to be. The more research I do, the more it seems that there is no fix for this bug from SW or MS. And others have been having the same problem…
This is a deal breaker. The engineer was talked into going with Vista by the company that put his computer together, Puget Systems. He's feeling ripped off. He needs this to work.
The other problems he's encountered with Vista 64 can be worked around.
Any thoughts? This is a bad situation.

Solidworks Office 2009 x64 Edition
Microsoft Office 2007
Nvidia Quadro FX 1700 video card with the video driver downloaded from the SW site.
Intel(R) Core i7 CPU
920 @ 2.67 GHz
6.00 GB RAM

Zach April 3, 2009 at 11:40 am

I'm using SW2009 SP0 on this machine:

Intel E8600 Dual core @ 3.33GHz
8GB DDR2 RAM
ATI Radeon 4800 1GB
Windows XP 64-bit

I love it. It's stable (even the ATI gaming card hasn't caused any problems) and with the 8GB ram I can do some quite impressive CFD. I used to use Vista 64 but it was so unpleasant to use (partially because I'm familiar with XP, but objectively I think it's pretty awful anyway). It was so bad I had to buy XP-64. I don't regret a cent: all the benefits of a 64 bit OS without any of the Vista headaches.

Bigbenbob April 17, 2009 at 9:41 am

SW has needed Excell installed for over 10 years. Excel is used in design tables which is a major functionality of SW. It's listed in the requirements on the SW website.

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/SystemRequ...

Bigbenbob

mhdganji November 20, 2009 at 12:35 am

Hi !
i like to have a good w.s. for sw2009 64bit but i dont like to use servers (esp prebuilt ones)
i have ordered a quadro fx 4800 or 5600 andi like ti use phenom x4 amd cpu
amd says it supports 64 bit but solidworks reseller says the 64 bit version just works with zeon and opteron cpu's ?
it that right ? cant i run sw2009 64 bit with a phenom x4 cpu ?

and this is my system i like to order ? what do u think ?

ASUS – M4A79T Deluxe
AM3 – Phenom II X4 965 – 3.4GHz
CORSAIR – Dual Channel 8GB – 1666-(2x4GB) / DHX
PNY NVIDIA QUADRO FX4800 1.5GB – GDDR3
GREEN – GP1230B-EPS

Thanks so much

Josh M November 20, 2009 at 2:46 pm

I've never heard that about the Phenom, but you may want to double check with another reseller or hardware person. – That sounds like a sweet rig. have fun.

mhdganji November 20, 2009 at 3:49 pm

never heard whay about phenom ? neber heard that it is 64 bit ? or ot can be used for a WS ? or what ? sorry but i did not get it !

mhdganji November 20, 2009 at 3:51 pm

never heard what about phenom ? never heard that it is 64 bit ? or it can be used for a WS ? or what ? sorry but i did not get it !

Josh M November 23, 2009 at 5:19 pm

Yeah, I wasn't too clear. never heard about it no being able to run SolidWorks.

Josh M November 23, 2009 at 10:19 pm

Yeah, I wasn't too clear. never heard about it no being able to run SolidWorks.

Alvin June 22, 2010 at 4:09 am

Hi there,

I'm running my own engineering business in Adelaide, we are currently using Vista Ultimate on all the machine. The unit I was using is running SW2009 with Vista X64 Bit, I have no problem with the Vista so far and I think it work better than XP. The start up in Vista is obviously faster than XP, if you turn off all the start up program. SW2010 have done the same thing with their software where big Assy. only in view mode, it will be fully loaded only when editing the parts.

Solidworks 2009 X64
Microsoft Professional Office 2007
Nvidia Quadro FX4600
Intel (R) COre i7 920 CPU
8GB ram.

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