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Looking for the Perfect Mobile Workstation? Check This Out.

by Josh on June 4, 2009 · View Comments

Don’t ya just love slapping down a couple grand for a smokin’ hot 3D model pumpin’ workstation? There’s a whole heap memory-laden machine to smooth out design, render and simulate, but there’s comes a point when you hear what has worked best for others.

Today we take a look at the magnificence of a perfect mobile workstation… Perfect from a sense that it works pretty darn good to run mid to high range 3D CAD apps while streaming music.

I was reading Christine Longwell’s blog post on The Search for a Wicked Cheap Laptop. Wicked cheap for SolidWorks is possible, but we’ll actually look at something that is wicked expensive, but could be customized to be not-so-wicked and just plain old ordinary expensive. Better?

For this adventure, I turned to my good friend Butch Lively from TDAviation. Their company has an impressive network of mobile workstation people, tied together with Rackspace hosting and SolidWorks Enterprise PDM. Here’s what Butch had to say.

We have been purchasing 8730w for the heavy hitters with 8GB, 1 GB Nvidias and dual hard drives configured with raid.

We recently purchased some 8710s as well because they were dirt cheap deals. Overall I have been very happy with HP mobile workstations. That came as a bit of a surprise as I was previously a Dell man. The one thing that made me start considering the HPs was the fact that Dell wasn’t then providing keyboards with a numberpad. The admin configuration tools HP provides are far better than Dell. The HP Performance Tuning Framework application is tops!

I bought the first HP 9740w (predecessor to the 8710) from New Egg just before hiring on with TDA. . We found various other resellers overs the next couple of years. Now we have an HP rep. Even though I bought mine through new egg, hp still sent someone onsite to repair the daughter board with a bad USB connector. Apparently all the mobile workstations come with 3 yr warranties.

The Specs for Butch’s set-up look something like this:

  • Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T9400* (2.53 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2 cache)
  • 17-inch diagonal WUXGA (1920×1200)
  • NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M 128-core CUDA parallel computing processor 1GB (dedicated)
  • 8192MB (800-MHz, DDR2, 2DIMM) ** ONLY available with VST BUS 64 or FreeDOS OS localizations
  • 250-GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
  • 2nd 250-GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM) in upgrade bay ** for RAID
  • Full- sized keyboard with numeric keypad and dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone
  • Intel 802.11a/b/g/draft n I3 (non IAMT/vPro)
  • HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth® Wireless Technology
  • 8-cell (73 WHr) Lithium-Ion battery
  • Limited 3 year standard parts and labor warranty, onsite service (3/3/3)

The Price?
On this configuration you would be looking at $3,691.00. Wooooo! High isn’t it. Well, you can customize these from a base price of $1,899.00 which isn’t too bad. I would splurge on the Memory for 64bit operation.

The recommendation from Trimech
Trimech Solutions, a SolidWorks reseller, put together a recommended hardware list for desktops and laptops. Here’s the laptop section. As you can see the 8730w is listed. I wouldn’t even consider the entry level version and I’d make sure to have Vista 64bit (Windows 7 in October 09) to utilize all the extra RAM you can afford.

So what do you run? Are you happy with the configuration you have or would you change it?

  • Izzy Bedibida
    Got wicked deal on ThinkPad W500 with 4GB RAM, T9400 processor and ATI FireGL V5700 with 512 MB VRAM and Vista Buisness x64. So far I can't complain. SW works well enough for what I have to use it with.
  • do you mind telling where you got the deal and how much it was? What made you go with the ATI Card? Thanks for the comment!
  • Izzy Bedibida
    I got it online form the Lenovo Canada site. At the time there was a big online sale which included free shipping and several E-coupons. Total bottom line was $1800 Canadian, which was several hundred to almost one thousand dollars cheaper than what HP and Dell were offering in Canada. Neither lets Canadians buy from thier refurbished site so we normally have to pay considerably more.
    Had no choice but to go for the ATI card, as that is the only card offered with this model.
  • Thanks for the tip.
  • I've got an HP8710w and love it except for the touch controls and screen display for Volume which are awful. Older HP laptops with buttons were much better.

    http://rcd.typepad.com/rcd/2009/04/my-perfect-c...
  • Chris Serran
    I purchase a Lenovo T61p a while back when it was released in Canada. It was quite decent at the time but only came with 2GB ram. Shortly after I upgraded it to 4GB, downgraded to XP, got rid of most of the Lenovo preloaded software and it ran SolidWorks quite decently.
    It seems to get pretty hot and at one point I sent it in and they replaced a fan. Still was getting hot afterwards but a cooling pad fixed that.

    In hind site I should have bought a desktop as I don't really move it around nearly as much as I thought I would have.

    My next purchase will probably be a Mac.
  • John_A
    The Dell M6400 is within 100 bucks in the same config. Comes down to who you'd rather do business with. The 6400 has had a number of issues that are still unresolved (see the solidworks hardware forums), so this HP looks like a good choice. For those on a budget, take a look at the refurbs.

    For the record, I'm running the 6400 with the x9100 (3.06ghz) and the 2700 video card, and get 80 secs on the punch holder rebuild. Video card makes no difference in Solidworks, as long as it's a Quadro, so unless your running something else that needs the muscle, you can save a few bucks ($350) there. I haven't had any problems with mine, though I'm not happy with the trackpad. The heal of my left thumb hits it, moving my cursor. Selecting "disable trackpad when mouse is plugged in" in the bios doesn't work, it stays on. Bios updates (2 and counting) haven't fixed that bug yet. Mine spends most of it's time in the dock, so it's a minor annoyance. Other BIG pain is laptop only comes with displayport and VGA, NO DVI! What where they thinking? Docking station DOES NOT have dual link DVI outs, so you have to get the more expensive monitors with Displayport inputs. There are far fewer to chose from than Dual Link units, and there are NO displayport to Dual Link DVI adaptors on the market. Short answer: If you don't want a Dell 3008 as your monitor (or 2408), don't get the 6400.
  • great input John. It's little stuff like that, that annoys the heck out of me!
  • John_A
    yeah, especially since I had a shiny new $1300 3007 already on my desk. Having to spend $1800 more to replace a perfectly good monitor still ticks me off. Of course, Dell's website 6 months later still gives no clue that you'll run into this problem. Looks like Dell's solution was to cut the price of the 3008 to $1400 to appease the masses. Of course, Dell wont credit you for the shipping to return your useless 3007. Still no resolution for the color issues or any of the other problems Nvidia 3700m users and Vista64 users are having.

    This is their top of the line business solution, and customers that pop over 6 grand for the complete system should rightfully expect more than being another Beta tester. I wont forget.
  • I just got my new Dell M6400 2.66GHz Core Duo with 4GB RAM about 1.5 months ago. I really wanted 64-bit Vista with 8GB RAM, but they haven't moved to Vista yet at corporate, and I guess we saved a little money...

    But it isn't my main workstation anyway; it's for travel and working at home/offsite. So far, I'm really enjoying it! I'm kinda on the fence about the number pad...it makes the main keyboard a little offset, but it does come in handy for typing dimensions and ASCII codes (although I could do that fairly easily using the Fn key too...).
  • 64-bit would be nice huh. That's one reason I'm looking at the options right now. I kind wonder if it would be better to wait till October for Win7, but that's a ways off and I'm sure many companies won't be jumping head-first into it. I keep holding out for new tech, but it just keeps improving! what the heck!
  • Richie @ TDA
    The bad boy 8730w we have actually has the 3.06GHz Extreme Core 2 Duo. We have two others with the 2.53GHz. If you do need 8GB of ram...you can settle for 2GB from HP and get the upgrade kit from a place like Crucial...you come out way ahead most of the time. I would also recommend going with a reseller like Butch mentioned. That way you have motivated sales and tech support because they know (and care) that if you are not happy throughout the life of the computer you might just switch brands. I'm not sure if I should advertise the company we deal with on the blog but email me and I'll gladly forward our reseller's contact info if anyone would like to deal with a top notch sales/support team (HP Products)
  • Cool Richie, thanks for the input. These are some nice rigs. I'll be sending you an email for sure. :)
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