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There’s usually a lot of change in a new software release that doesn’t get reported. There’s also most likely an equally sad employee that doesn’t get to bask in the brilliance of that small “mediocre” addition.
Well, that’s about to change. Whether you’ve been noticed or not, we know you’re in front of your computer screen, fingers blazin’ across the keyboard, adding additional goodies to that new version of SolidWorks.
So, here’s to the people that add that itty-bitty smidgin’ of pixel shading, a touch of resource consumption, a burst of consideration for the environment, and everyone else that scrubbed the corners of the program after everyone else went home.
8 Absolutely Odd Facts About SolidWorks 2008
- SolidWorks 2008 uses 16,204 Kilobytes of Memory when it’s running and nothing is loaded. SolidWorks 2007 uses 13,604 Kilobytes.
- SolidWorks 2008 has 584 toolbar icons. SolidWorks 2007 has 451 toolbar icons.
- SolidWorks 2008 shows a Customize toolbar menu when you right-click on the title bar. SolidWorks 2007 shows window options; double-clicking it still toggles min/max window size in both.
- SolidWorks 2008 has 2820 images in the installation folder; 2007 has 1087. Both have a hi-res image of the top and bottom of a bagel.
- SolidWorks 2008 allows you to use RealView graphics in drawings; 2007 doesn’t.
- SolidWorks 2008 ships in is the same size box as the 2007 box except it’s .75” thinner. No Notepad and 5 fewer discs.
- The 2008 beta program started April 2007 and ended July 30th. Thanks to Kevin, Amit, Charles, Koka, Steve, Jeff, Pabitra, and YueSheng that took care of my submissions.
- The SolidWorks 2008 splash screen slimmed down 70 pixels, and grew 27 pixels taller.
So, notice anything else about 2008 that could be left out but shouldn’t?
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The new background after it starts-up is different. was it actually done in solidworks?
I’m beginning to think that you have way too much time on your hands, Josh.
hmmm… it shows huh Jeff. actually, if I had more time I would have come up with 127 absolutely odd facts. I had to stack some paper though. my back
I noticed the missing notepad in the box. I was bummed!!! Cheapskates!
Btw, you’re back on my work’s block list. Sheez. Did you switch host’s or something?
Josh, I think you mistyped this:
> SolidWorks 2008 uses 16,204 Kilobytes
I verified and it should be 162,04 Kb.
bye
now, now Alberto, there’ll be no moving around comas… Actually, could I give you my salary number to do the same thing to?
No prob Josh. See you next year!
Hi Josh:
I love this one:”8 Absolutely Odd Facts About SolidWorks 2008″
That was cool and I am waiting you finish the rest 119 Absolutely Odd Facts About SolidWorks 2008.
Best regards
Thanks, I’d love to hear if you’ve found anything you think is unusual. got any?
>SolidWorks 2008 has 584 toolbar icons. SolidWorks 2007 has 451 toolbar icons.
More icons, more functions, more chaos. I have small brain. I dont save to my brain all icons function
I hear ya Viktor. I don’t use toolbars in 2008, but the shortcut bar (and icons) come in handy.
Hi, I know a few I things you missed!
1. If you open a file in 2008 and save it, you will never be able to open it with 2007. (And you can’t save as “solidworks 2007 file”) This is shameful, even Microsoft with all its power and customer bullying provides compatibility with at least one generation of older software made by them. Take Office 2007 for example. You must either be a cocky jerk that thinks you’ve made a flawless software everyone’s going to love, or are so ashamed of the program you wrote before that you don’t provide support for its format as if it’s some other company you don’t associate yourself with. I mean what were they thinking? Do you think the IT department of a large company can handle installing the new software on every single workstation over night? No they will have to do it slowly, mean while your engineers can’t work together because one of them already opened the file in 2008 and no one else can open it! RETARDED!
2. in 2008 if you have a part from an assembly open as well as the assembly itself, and you simply switch between the screens (NOT EVEN EDITING THE PART JUST SWITCHING) you will have to wait 40sec (depends on computer performance) to be able to click or type or even move a muscle, or else it will freeze or take longer to load.
3. In 2008 it will take at least double if not triple the time to save the exact same model and the file takes up more space. WHY?!!! This could only mean they are putting more information in a saved file. And last time I checked this is the wrong direction in software improvement. Every other software strives to make their saved file format a more efficient smaller code with every release, but the all mighty solidworks only does things backwards.
3. SOLIDWORKS 2008 SUCKS!!!! I’ve lost all faith and am switching to NX
Nima,
I don’t know what kind of computer you are using, but your second point is something I have never seen–even on the worst of our computers.
when i tried to install Solidworks 2008 from the DVD, the installer said that there was a new version SP3, and I selected to install it. And the installer went on to download 3GB of data!
i thought i did something wrong and asked my reseller and he said that’s how Solidworks 2008 works.
i then went to Solidworks support website thinking that i could download the Solidworks 2008 SP8 DVD, but all I got was a installer which would download the 3GB and install Solidworks 2008 on the machine. no 2008 SP3 DVD!
the folks at Solidworks must be trying to be funny? some manager there trying to sabotage the company before resigning? if not, would anybody be so insane to expect his customers to download 3GB just to do an upgrade???
Solidworks sucks! big time.
I just installed SolidWorks 2008 this morning, and have wasted my entire work day trying to get as many settings as I can back to 2007. I hate all these new bubbly features, and the program has crashed on me 3 times.
I don’t really give a crap about how fancy looking the interface is… all these new pop-ups, icons, and backgrounds are annoying and distract me from the work I am trying to do. I’ve spent the last hour trying to figure out how to turn this damn wrinkled paper off in the drawing view! Does anyone know how to do this??
Hi, yeah, i understand your frustration. It’s kind of hard to use something that’s not documented very clearly. It’s in the help file, but hard to understand. If you go to Tools, Options in the Colors section under System Options there’s three checkboxes down below. If you check the first one, it will turn off the wrinkly paper graphic.
If you have some specific questions let me know. You can get all your setting over to 2008 and even get it to function similarly.
How many different splash screens on 2008?
Hey Donal, that’s a good one. I’ve counted 9 different ones.
nima where are you. i also want to burn solidworks; what is nx?
is there any way at all to modify a file in 2008 and later open it in 2007, maybe save as? or a nice 3d party plug in that does it? plz help.. thanks
Hello again,
Jake, I’m running, AMD X2 4000+, Geforce 7900GTX (512MB), 2GB RAM and I guess if you care, 2x 500GB HDD RAID. The toggling between screens (assembly and part) issue I mentioned happens more visibly if you have a few parts from the same assembly open. Also Im not sure what size work you do but my examples are from automation machines that run 75-300 parts in an assembly.
I wrote my previous comments based on 1 month of work with 2008, now 3 months into it my list has even compiled to be larger! Im not going to bore everyone by trying to convince you that 2008 is a step back from 2007, don’t believe me go ahead and switch and you just might realize. But one particular thing that’s just been getting on my nerves so much that I now have a permanent black mark on my monitor due to my forehead banging into it is the crashes! Crashes happen at even more random times than before and while doing the stupidest things like say, selecting an edge. in 2007 if solidworks crashed, the program would die, you would get an error report from windows (send/ don’t send) and when you restarted the program it would apologize for its crashing and 90% of the times have some sort of backup file. Now, my computer goes from select edge to ….. RESTART! No error message, no “Im sorry” and most ridiculously it had no chance in saving a recovery file, so say goodbye to the last 0.5 to 3hrs of work (depending on how often you manually save). I know Im going to get people who say “Well you should save your file more or make auto recover do its thing more often” so here is the response in advance. 1. I shouldn’t have to constantly save that’s the whole point of having software in its 10th generation. 2. If it crashes like this, the auto recover does not WORK! Regardless of frequency of save! Oh and please don’t tell me I may not know how to use the software or Im just bashing it because I like some other software, I started with solidworks 97, and I
To JIM, NX is a software by unigraphics, its more expensive and harder to crack if you don’t want to pay for it. But once you get it and you learn it (this will be easy if you already know solidworks) it will just always work. most importantly its capabilities for FEA in solids, fluids and heat transfer as well as machine mechanics far surpass solidworks. at my company a $4000 workstation runs COSMOS and if he goes anywhere beyond 1mm grain size for meshing, he will NEVER find a solution (I mean he leaves it over the weekend!). Meanwhile based on test lab data the error in yield strength calculations reaches (44%)! are you kidding me!?
Oh and Gabrielsol, you can’t go to 2007 from 2008 if you want to keep your features, unless you do it as a third party like .igs but that means your parts will come in as imported blocks without the ability to modify its features within 2007.
Thanks Nima, i guess ill have to force them to upgrade then lol, cause I’m not going back
Hey Nima, there was an issue with 08 that cause my computer to keep crashing like you say. I didn’t seem to be related to SolidWorks but to the way the graphics card was functioning with the software and a conflicting .dll. I had to get a new graphic card.
we used pro e and they introduced wildfire…it was disturbing
we used sw 2007 and they introduced sw 2008 …it was frightening
now i’m stuck with software that is simply not as good as its predecessor
only use I can find for it is to use the box to hold backup disks..and the installation disk as a cheap ‘frisbee’
when will we, the billions of people on the planet finally get the right to sell software secondhand
if we could, sw2008 second hand would be cheap to buy (no one would want it) and this would force the new price down and send a clear message to sw
we would have 2007 back in a month..they should have stuck with what they had in my opinion
i completely agree re crashes, its like demolition derby but what erks me most is the way the software keeps getting in the way with ‘presupposing what i want to do’….
This is the reality of the situation. John is right, Nima is right and anyone who says Solidworks is a quality software either A)doesn’t have more then 1 year experience on it or B) is employed by SW or a distributer.
I have also been on SW since 1997. 2000 was by far the best version. 98 was pretty good too. There is absolutely nothing that I can do with SW08 then I couldn’t do with 98, nothing.
Oh you might say, cosmos and color drawings and all this fancy interface. Its all junk that has nothing to do with me creating drawings for manufacturing and has done only one thing, make me spend more money & time on computer & software upgrades.
SW 98 for example, ran on my first computer, an aptiva 300mhz with a 64mg graphics card, 128mb of ram, oh and bus speed was 133, an antique, practically a calculator compared to todays standards however. With this computer and version of SW, I modeled and drafted and rendered an entire motorcycle, every part, every bolt, every wire, everything with the exception of the tire tread, revised it several times and though it crashed a few times, I still have it and I can still open it and manipulate it.
SW 08, will not load this exact same assembly on my new laptop, which is a dual 1800 with 500mb graphics and 2gb of ram, bus speed is 800. Not even if I go through the years and update one SW year at a time, which I do anyways for tests. Both ways, doesn’t open, crashes instead.
Also, when I tried to do a complete bike on SW08 with my desktop, which I spent about 5 grand on (I won’t bore you with the details of each component) I got the model done, renderings done, draftings done, then, two days later, when I tried to revise something, the entire assembly would not open, draftings would not open, crash instead. So I had to re assemble all parts, re assign relationships, re do everything!
SW is garbage don’t waste your money, your energy, and most importantly your life, sitting in front of it.
Every day you continue to use it you perpetuate your frustration.
Take 2 weeks to learn something else and you will be proficient enough to work.
Tell your employer to buy something else. If you don’t, you might as well go and work in a factory putting cardboard boxes together because if you only know SW, you are letting SW dictate the value of your skills and where you can work.
Cad Monkey is a real thing. My definition of a Cad Monkey is anyone who cannot do something without their computer or software of choice.
A Cad Monkey does what he is told, with what he is given. Go eat a banana.
SW has turned its users into Cad Monkeys.
And yet solidworks sells more licenses than ever. Most of these sales are made trought reference selling which means prospects are refered to customers that are very happy!!! with the software. Maybe if all you guys start doing your work and stop F@&%king around on forums like these you will actualy get something done.
Solidworks 2008 lets you edit custom properties directly from the assembly bill of materials table. This is awesome. This is the best feature of the new software and it was enough to get us to upgrade all of our seats…
Solidworks 2008 Service Pack 3.1 crashes daily on my machine and I hear it crashing around the roon on my coworkers computers, lots of loud sighs. It uses 100% CPU just rotating a medium sized 100 part assembly. It has lowered our company productivity at every seat. We have ordered new computers for everyone in hopes that we can get back up to speed. We have decided to tolerate 2008 until 2009 and if performance doesn’t improve we are going shopping for a new CAD system.
ummmm, dear mr Rob,
While Solidworks is crashing all day long I have plenty of time to hang out in the forums.
The reason why Solidworks is selling more then ever is because they give companies that have 5 or more seats of a competitor the initial replacement seats for FREE.
They manipulate controllers into their cheaper and inferior software with cash savings. Think about it, if you could save a half million dollars by not having to upgrade 50 seats of Pro e, you might think its a good idea. These people are SALES people, not users, they are not engineers, they are not designers, they sell you their product, sw.
I know because this is the offer they gave me. They dropped their pants when I said I was looking at alias.
Then they get the company stuck into upgrading every seat the next year.
I can name 20 companies around Ontario that have done this but I won’t.
These companies that switch to Solidworks have budgets controlled guess what, not by a cad guy, not usually by an engineer or a designer but by a bean counter who will never use cad ever. Second, most of the places that are controlled by engineers or designers are that of senior citizen age, they do not know any cad and generally talk out their ass about how good something is but dont know anything about using it.
Solidworks bought its popularity and it is evident by all the multi year SW users who at first thought it was great (yea, compared to going to school, getting paid to use SW is great however) after a few years realise how shit it is and how stuck they now are with a masters knowledge of a pile of crap.
Solidworks is good at one thing only, marketing and as you all know, all marketers are liars.
So, does anyone have an idea how or why Solid Works 2008 sp3.1 is crashing? What is the recommended RAM for this bear?
Reasons I like SW 2008 ?
Surfacing power is finally getting close for me, I didnt have the features I needed in the earlier versions.
Spline tools are way improved as well and the splines dont move as slow as the used to when doing edits in the sketch.
I’m using Vista 64 bit (havent had ONE problem in 2 months with Vista believe it or not) Dual core 2.8g Dell laptop m6300 with 4meg and a desktop dell with dual core 2.8g
I havent had such few problems with the computer or Solidworks in a long time, granted I deal with organic shapes and chassis my assemblys are very simple but I’m pretty pleased. My 08 sp3.1 has never crashed, I use it 3~5 hours a day
Having said all that, for what I do I like Rhino3D more, I dont really need the parametrics or drawings (I can live without them) Rhino3D 4 now has some history, we go straight to CNC. Sometimes simple organic surfaces in SW makes me nuts though, the lack of support for layers also makes me crazy.
But I’m not feeling the pain you all are and I’ve been using it for 10 years.
The interface can be tweaked to be familiar.
I have seen situations where SolidWorks seem to crash randomly. On closer investigation I found various reasons for this. Granted that SolidWorks development sometimes screws up something which will cause the crash.
In a lot of cases Anti Virus software is a big culprit. You will find that after installing a new service pack you see some instability. Some antivirus software prevents the installation from completing. The registry is not updated correctly and this instability will continue until you rectify this issue.
You need to restart your workstation without the antivirus software starting as well. you can then restart the service for the antivirus. (The restart without the Antivirus should do the trick) If this doesn’t work uninstall SolidWorks and the antivirus then install SolidWorks and service packs, restart the Workstation and then re-install the antivirus.
You should actually do this for all new installations of software of upgrades, including driver upgrades as well.
Furthermore I have had serious issues with networks as well.
Try disconnecting from the network and see if the problem persists stop all service connected to network function. if the problem improves then the problem is with the network not the SolidWorks.
And finally you need to make sure that you are running a decent workstation and not an oversold PC, supplied by “fly by night” IT supplies. I only use DELL precision workstations with very good results. The fact is that non branded PC’c are just not up to the task.
Good advise. Antivirus is something that one takes for granted and tend to forget about. I will try to incorporate this from now on.
We use nothing but Dell on the workstations as well. thanks for the information…will try the suggestions.
SW 2008 worst release ever in my opion, just as almost everone said its slower and requires more power to use. I have used it its very beginning and now I’m ready to drop it. The new pop-ups suck, reminds me of internet pop-ups. I thought 2008 would have more functional power like better surfacing features instead it requires more power to run for its useless function of showing pretty models while you work “Crap” to an engineer but “great” to a user. What I’m saying is 2008 is not geared to a “engineer” or “Industial Designer” its for new users.
Hi,
We have been using SW for five years now and have generated thousands of Engineering drawings. We updated to 2008 this morning (which soon became this afternoon) and have realized to our horror that SW have changed something in the operation of the Centre-lining tool that makes all the dimensions attached to centre-lines on our previous drawings dangle. Apparently we were the first company to report this to our distributer!?!?
Apparently, there is a new service pack on its way that may fix the problem, sp4.0 (it’s in its alpha version at the moment - so it could be weeks away).
HERE’S MY ADVICE - Don’t update to 2008 until at least 2009!!!!
I have SP4.0 EV installed and I do believe this is fixed from all the 07 drawing I’ve brought up. We’re still using 07 because of vendors but I’m actively testing it on a daily basis with internal programs and drawings.
A month ago I posted a rather negative review of SW2008 destroying our company productivity. This week we installed new workstations for all engineers. Core Duo 3+ Ghz, 4 GB Ram, nVidea Quadro 570 video cards, windows vista. We have not had any crashes this week and the user interface is much more responsive. It appears that SW2008 has a hidden cost of $1500 per upgrade to get a new computer.
Even though I am not having the problems and performance issues many of you have and I’m not a new user. I still have decided not to use SolidWorks for my CNC work anymore. I will only use it for sheet metal and probably stop the maintenance.
I find Rhino3D is a better program for my purpose and it cost less that 1 year of SW maintenance. I’m lucky that parametrics dont mean very much to me. I can do without them. I just need great surface, 2D curve tools and layers on export!. Then we go to Mastercam to cut.
So good luck with SW all!
Hey Thomas, glad things worked out for you. There’s a disconnect between hardware/software tech. One is always driving the other prematurely. I would have to concur with the upgrade cost. I’ve suggested in the past to wait until your companies next round of hardware upgrades. We are still not using it in production for multiple reason, but I want to make sure the hardware will handle the move to 08/09 and Vista which will coincide with each other.
Hey Pedro. Thanks for the comment. I think the result of using SW08 are going to be somewhat subjective. We’re not using it in production except what I’m testing out daily, but it has usability that will increase our designers efficiency. The Shortcut bar for one allows in fewer operations while staying in the workspace. the dynamic search has saved time as well although it need to be faster in large assemblies. My suggestion to many that are skeptical of the changes is to go with 2009. beta starts in June and thatwill allow you to try it out and see for yourself, but I already know of some performance enhancements that will help.
I work for a very large corporation with facillities all over the world. Yesterday a colleague ask for SW part files we will be making overseas. And, he found he can’t open them because he has SW2007 and I have SW2008. He then asked me to save them in SW2007 and resend them. Ha, ha, like that were possible. His division hasn’t upgraded yet because so many of us are having problems with 2008. And, this situation is not acceptable to us at all. Does anyone know if Solid Edge or Inventor allows saving in older file formats? One other thing, SW2008 is a resource hog that’s driven my Dell Workstation to it’s knees. Have been uninstalling all unessential progs and it hasn’t helped one bit. Remember the days when you could run SolidWorks on a Pentium 1 computer? Those days are gone. It’s ironic as we’ve been moving away from ProE to SolidWorks. And, SolidWorks is now aquiring the same bad traits that compelled us to dump ProE. Hey, I loved earlier versions of SW. But, I passionately hate the 2008 that’s infesting my computer. Somebody shoot me.
SW 2008 is like a cat that won’t take a shit. It’s got all the cute fuzziness, except that when you need it to be a good friend and do its duty - it doesn’t. How about instead of releasing a very pricey piece of cat poop (ie. sp 1, sp 2, sp 2.2, sp 3,….), make sure you are selling a great product! I really don’t need to spend a full day installing updates that remind me of why i hate microsoft, and apparently now itunes as well. So, SW engineers, marketeers, and everyone else who is responsible for this powerful cat poop - get your act together. I know i speak for a lot of industrial designers who use this software to create solutions for problems, but i don’t see how I’m going to solve this problem without shooting the cat that won’t shit.
SW2008 Reminds me of the old Minolta Coroporation that was “Marketing Driven.” They went “marketing crazy” and started adding every conceiveable bell and whistle to all their cameras. What they really needed was a simple auto-focus system that really worked. Canon was the first camera company to do that when they released the “Elan.” It was the first camera in the world that could focus on both vertical and horizontal lines. And, it was lightning fast. And, Canon conquered the marketplace with it, even eclipsing Nikon. Right now they own over 90% of the photo-journalism market. Minolta, on the other hand, was sued for stealing some of those “bells and whistles” and went broke. Sony bought them, and they’re now trying to recover market share. Solidworks seems to have become a “Marketing Driven” comapany ever since they were purchased by Dassault. And, it’s not a good thing. I want a CAD package that’s lightning fast and has lightning fast menus. And, I don’t want them to change everything with each new major release. That drives all of us crazy. How about icons that are easier to see, find and identify, rather than change them to look like the new Vista OS? Have they done studies on that? Have they done regular studies on how to make menus faster and more efficient? If so, they’re keeping it a secret. I want lightning fast software. Instead we’re getting new bells and whistles that most of us don’t want and didn’t ask for. And that, my friends is evidence SolidWorks has become a dysfunctional “Marketing Driven” company. They’re leadership probably never understood why we all moved to SolidWorks in the first place. Dilbert’s boss is alive and well and working at SolidWorks.
Been using Solidworks since it first came out. In the last 5 years have used it with Moldworks and agree with CT. Have been having the crashing issues as well but yes give me fast and functional and incremental change instead of a complete revamp. Ive completely reformated my hard drive and removed everything and it crashes so often I dont have time to do anything else but reboot and reload and am forced to constantly save large assemblies. Have looked at other software and am very tempted but there is the large price tag and of course learning all over again. Have called tech support and they never find anything.
I’ve been having crashing issues too. When SW begins to act strange, such as suddenly failing to highlight edges, a crash is inevitable. It’s time to save, close and re-start. Sometimes re-booting my Dell Precision workstation is required. And, it sounds like this may be an XP vs. Vista issue. I would convert to 64 bit Vista, but our IT people won’t support it. Perhaps they will be willing to install the 32 bit version? Have passionately loved earlier versions of SW. And, it would be worth the effort of installing a new OS to regain speed and stability.
SW2008 was not ready for release. It shows the arrogance of the company that they think they can release something once a year with that many changes. It is typical of the president and his mega ego. Even companies as large as Microsoft with a thousand times the staff of SW don’t work off fixed release dates. My company crashed hourly with SW 2008 for six months. Some parts crashed the interface as soon as they were booted up. I don’t even want to talk about the fact you can’t save in an earlier version, that just makes me want to personally throttle the the presisdent of SW. More arrogance. “We know what you need” “We know what is best for you” “We will tell you what you can and can’t do” A real control freak to the core. The opposite of open source and everything that makes software a pleasure to work with. Then the support people always start with blaming you for SW problems. Their favorite line is, “Other customers aren’t experiencing these problems.” By starting off blaming the customer, it really comes off as arrogant. It is the thread the runs through why I am so pissed with this application and the people who support it. First deny there are any problems. “Everybody loves “Other users don’t have these issues” What kind of statement is that? That shows almost no knowledge of applications or how software works. It is totally stupid thing to say with no practical value for the customer with the problem and factually means nothing. The only possible result of the statement is to piss off the customer or make them feel like an idiot.
Then the blame goes on. “You must have installed it incorrectly”, or “your virus software (that we don’t run) is to blame” Or “your video card hasn’t been tested”. What has that got to do with anything in practical sense? I could be running the best SW video card ever made and the fact that it hasn’t been tested makes it crash the software? What will the technician do, test it for me on the phone? What is the point of such a statement to finding the cause of the problem? What is he going to do? Give up the troubleshooting process because my card hasn’t been tested?
We recently went through all the hoops they could think of to find out why our software was crashing the instant we clicked on an annotation. Couldn’t even delete the thing because deleting it requires you to CLICK ON THE FRICKING THING!!! In the end they found a bug in the code. The fix was SP4. So here we are in June and finally the software might be ready to released. They kept their revenue streaming going though, that was the real point to begin with right?
We contract with a designer that has every CAD package known to man running on his server. He is an old timer with tremendous knowlege and a real pleasure to work with. He has to be able to handle anything that comes his way, so needs everything. His favorite is CADKEY. He freely admits it won’t do everything, but says it is easier to build your stuff in CADKEY then import it to SW to do annimations, etc. That is a sad commentary on SW, isn’t it?
Has anyone besides me noticed there are no keyboard equivilents next to the commands? Talk about a bunch of lazy developers. A good GUI has multiple ways of doing things and it is easy to see the keyboard equivalent to any commmand next to the menu item. SW didn’t bother. They took away the “EDIT SKETCH” text, I guess that was too helpful and would’ve been a great place to put the keyboard equivalent, and put an icon in another area. It took me five minutes to find out how to edit a sketch. Multilpy that by all my guys, all the commands they changed and it ads up to a lot of wasted time and money. They could care less though. They sold another round of support licenses. It is the attitude that really sticks in my craw.
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And only when your backs are against the wall admit SW2008 has bugs. All software has bugs, it is a mathematical impossibility to fully debug an application when the complexity reaches a certain level. There are whole books written on the subject. SW has the artificial deadline every year to come out with wiz bang new package to keep the revenue flowing. Even giants like Microsoft slip their deadlines for practical reasons. Only sheer arrogance ships something when it isn’t ready. 2008 out of the box was not ready for release. 6 months we crashed over here every single time we opened our design. The box says I have 90 day warranty or I get a refund. How about a refund for the 6 months we couldn’t use it?