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Usable 3D Geometry Please. Could There Ever Be a SolidWorks ‘Catalyst’?

by Josh on June 1, 2009 · View Comments

Raise your eyebrow in a menacing way if you’ve ever received a really crumby .pdf, concept print or model data to create a production model from? If only there was a little more info or a way that the data could be transformed into usable 3D parametric data huh?

Adobe has just release a interesting program from their Labs called Flash Catalyst (formerly codename ‘Thermo’). It allows graphics designers to create user interfaces… without coding, transforming the graphics into working examples that developers can then use to complete a website or app.


Now, apply this to SolidWorks and 3D engineering data. Could designers transform their concept sketches into 3D data using a program that automatically creates the parametric data, that could then be pulled into SolidWorks?

The possibilities?
Stupid idea or are there actual possibilities. I remember times working with designers that would use SolidWorks to create dumb models. It was parametric, but still unusable ot create the engineering data. But what if the ‘catalyst’ program created the parametric data itself. Features and geometry engineers could use. Some things this program could do?

  • Turn Layers into solid parts
  • Take any graphic and turn it into geometry
  • Convert blocks to features
  • Recognize shaded faces
  • Selectable dependencies to set parametric intent

Can what is done within graphical applications be done with CAD applications?
Taking a design created in a graphical program (or AutoCAD) and creating parametric data underneath sounds incredible daunting and almost dangerous, but it’s fun to think about the possibilities. To me, you might as well learn how to create the geometry in the 3D program, since your learning what you need to do with an intermediate program to get it all to work in the main program.

Some would say programs like this already exist. They do to a certain extent and there’s more functionality being built into mid-range CAD applications where designers and engineers work on the same platform handing designs back and forth. Does that make it easier though? It certainly seems like it would.

Oh, one other thing. Make it a cross-platform app that works on PC, Mac and Linux. There ya go.

What do you think the possibilities are? What if this could smooth out the conflict and communication between design and engineering? That could be very useful and maybe a bit more productive.

  • Josh, I'm not pro- in this topic, but I think Alias Studio 2010 allows you to create conceptual models and transfer to to Inventor and other CAD. But, great idea! I like it. Oleg.
  • Thanks Oleg. It's interesting (at least to me) to think about a really robust applications that can bridge this + provide usable parametric data with features even. If everyone had SpaceClaim it would be easy, right? people just handing models back and forth, but really I think there is a market, especially with (from what I see) more ID'ers using SolidWorks for conceptualization.
  • you really think ever could use spaceclaim? I dunno man. Its easy. but not THAT much easier duder.. DS demo'ed some wicked Live Shape-based stuff at Devcon last year that let's users play with geometry in a controlled environment (say mockups of potential new products, with different variants and options etc). It then provided the data on trends and such. you know.. crowdsourcfabulous
  • Righto, easy, but still a process and more work to make changes (sometimes). There's always going to be lining up a process with any CAD system. but SpaceClaim isn't even close to what I'm thinking product design could be. I'm talking sort of a 'living features' with inherent history that resolves, reassociates and adjusts based on geometry creation, simultaneously between users. No front-end data management process. That all happens real-time, behind the scenes and across the environment. Too much? I don't think so. I just don't think there's many thinking of how we actually design products and taking the step-by-step, click-by-click process out. I need to write an article dude :)
  • This is hard to say. Even Autodesk have complexity of all formats and combination. If you have soft from diff vendors - even more complicated...
  • I see this as a great opportunity to bring other people into being able to use SolidWorks for product design and somethign that can compete with the likes of Sketchup. Marketing it (keeping the DS name off of it), making it open and letting it go viral would be incredibly HUGE.

    It's there. even if it's creating and bringing on dumb geometry. With what solidworks and dassualt could potentially do with the tech they're working on to work with foreign data in dynamic part and assembly collaboration makes this type of app even more important. Is anyone listening? ;)
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